Skip to main content

Language Follies

In her latest blog entry
(Letters from a broad...: Est-ce que it pokes?)
C.L. Hanson talks about her son's bringing of French grammar and phrases into English. One of her comments raises the question of how the language you speak influences the way you think. I've been wondering about this and the ease/difficulty of saying no and yes in various languages and whether this might influence the famous negativity of toddlers.

For example, one of a baby's first words (at least English speaking babies) is "Da," yes in Russian. Does this mean that when a baby babbles in Russian they are saying "yes yes yes yes..."? Would this have an effect on power struggles, or the way a parent interacts with a baby? Compared to Luke who is already learning "nnnnnnn" when he doesn't like something, a baby babbling "yes" would seem to put a positive spin on the whole situation.

Luke is also learning to shake his head "no!" at things---it is actually very difficult to nod your head "yes". I think he enjoys the sense of power it gives him to say no---either that, or he enjoys the reactions of those around him when he gestures no. Amanda in particular will always answer his head shaking by nodding and saying "yes yes yes yes!" They nod and shake until both of them are giggling.

The word "yes" is very hard to say, as well. Around here it is practically a 2 syllable word, with 2 hard sounds (y and s). If it were easier to say, would a 2 year old employ it more often than "no"?

Right now, listening to Eleanor and Amanda try to learn English (we have talked about teaching them french but frankly, neither Michael or I have the skills) I am amazed that anyone ever learns to talk. Amanda is experimenting with prepositions, which seem to be almost randomly applied. I can only remember a few of her constructions "Buckle me out! Put the clothes off! Take these blankets on me." I understand what she is trying to say in every case, but I also have learned somehow, without being explicitly taught, that we don't say those things in English.

The girls are also having trouble with irregular verbs. "I runned to the door." Or even, "I runnded to the door." After a while listening to them, I find myself not trusting my own knowledge of verb formation. This is one of the reasons that parents need to have conversations with other adults once in a while. I choose to believe that the reason the girls are having trouble with these is that they have learned the rules so thoroughly and are applying them, and so their mistakes show how smart they are =)

My favorite language logic has to do with the cereal "Kix". If Amanda has a bowl of Kix, and offers one to Luke, she says "Have a Kick." Makes sense to me, and it's almost always clear that she doesn't intend to use her foot.

Comments

C. L. Hanson said…
That is so cute!!!

My kids try to regularize irregular words too. :D
mathmom said…
One wonders why they became irregular in the first place... It seems like it would save so much trouble if they had been developed with more care =) Wikipedia says that irregular verbs are remnants of other verb conjugation systems.

Language is fascinating, especially watching kids learn it.
C. L. Hanson said…
I just thought of a funny example of regularizing that my kids do! They say his, hers, theirs, yours, and myse. ;^)

It is kind of interesting to wonder how they became irregular. I think it's that the grammar rules shift -- and the less common words get regularized by each successive generation of kids -- but the most common words retain archaic forms. Steven Pinker has a really interesting book on irregular forms in language and how they work (sadly I can't remember the title...).
mathmom said…
Is this the one you are thinking of? Words and Rules

There is a pdf of his lecture that agrees with exactly what you are saying about regularization: the most common english verbs are irregular, the least common are regular, presumably because a whole generation of kids has grown up without memorizing the irregular forms (my paraphrase of his text).

My biggest problem is that at the end of a day of talking to my kids, I find myself being unsure of what the proper form is. Perhaps I should just relax and take it as part of the evolution of language.

Popular posts from this blog

Things that are true

"Axial tilt is the reason for the season." (Picture a globe with the northern hemisphere tilted away from the sun...) I believe this is meant to be an anti-theist slogan, although I would point out that I believe there is a reason for the axial tilt. This is a runner up to my favorite true science picture, the "Gravity Forecast." I linked to this when I was a graduate student, but the site is long since down. Picture a weather forecast graphic, but instead of clouds and temperatures, the 5-day forecast predicts 9.8 m/s^2 down. Even the idea still makes me laugh, perhaps I will reproduce it someday. Luke cut his 4th tooth today (Finally!). So far they haven't caused us too much trouble. We'll see what happens when he gets his canines.

Science at home

We had a fun "experiment" yesterday. We took a 2 liter bottle of diet Coke and some Mentos, put 4 Mentos at the same time into the bottle, and shot a huge jet of soda into the air about 8 feet high! It was quite exciting, although I think the warnings that you might want to use eye protection were a bit overblown. I suppose that it was an experiment only in the loosest sense of the term, but Michael forsees lots of fun in the future: using other types of soda, other methods for adding the mentos to the soda, and so on. It did get us out of the house for a while, and had Eleanor and Amanda dropping mentos into the used soda bottle and watching to see what happened---so cute!

A day at the fair

Yesterday afternoon the whole family went to the NC state fair. We had a good enough time that I think we are going back next year, although perhaps we will leave Luke at home with a sitter. We went right after Eleanor's school. Michael picked up Eleanor, I drove Luke and Amanda. Through an amazing bit of timing, we met in the parking lot and walked to the fair together, about a 10 minute walk (not bad at all, really). I had meant to get to the fair much earlier and see the parts that Eleanor and Michael claimed not to be interested in (the animals and crafts, mostly) but I was running a little late. Our area has been in a serious drought for the past few months, so I am not complaining that it rained (hard) on us as we were getting to the gate. But it does seem a bit hard that we planned to go to the fair on the one day in the past 3 months that we had a rainstorm. Fortunately, the rain was scattered, and the clouds soon moved off to water another area. We took the opportun...